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  • seancannot's Avatar
    639 posts since Mar '05
    • saw some skyhawk when I went to the open hse, just wondering can they be reactivated during time of war, they may not possess the advance system that F-16c/d has , but in time of war , having more asset still better right

  • bloodsucker's Avatar
    128 posts since Jun '08
    • Our A4s are also decommissioned. The only operational ones are the trainer aircrafts in France. So if war breaks out I think that unless it hasnt yet been decommed, it wont be in use. Just fyi, the rsaf is gonna buy a new jet trainer; either the T50 or the Marchetti something.

  • stellazio's Avatar
    45,080 posts since Apr '05
  • seancannot's Avatar
    639 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by bloodsucker:

      Our A4s are also decommissioned. The only operational ones are the trainer aircrafts in France. So if war breaks out I think that unless it hasnt yet been decommed, it wont be in use. Just fyi, the rsaf is gonna buy a new jet trainer; either the T50 or the Marchetti something.

      Those in France also retired liao , A4 mostly relegated to trainer duty , brazil Israel cos they are too old

  • spencer99's Avatar
    1,920 posts since Jan '03
    • The A4s in France should still be flying. They will be replaced by the new trainer a/c that the RSAF is evaluating.... the T-50?

       

       

       

       

  • spartan_6's Avatar
    96 posts since Jan '08
  • arball's Avatar
    188 posts since Dec '07
  • Short Ninja's Avatar
    4,990 posts since Jan '07
    • Old planes can be used for training unless you want to use them planes against countries like Brunei or the Vatican....here we go again

  • bloodsucker's Avatar
    128 posts since Jun '08
    • Brunei? lol... We have as much chance of going into war with Brunei as USA have agst Britain....

  • Sepecat's Avatar
    120 posts since Jan '08
    • The A4s will be replaced by a new generation advanced jet trainer. No point keeping  obsolescent A4 aircraft  as they will be  ineffective in any conflict - unless you choose to use them against pirates.  

      Anyway the A4s are very near the end ( if not already beyond ) of their airframe life.

  • spartan_6's Avatar
    96 posts since Jan '08
    • I beg to different, e A-4 can still be effective in certain cases ie

      1) When both airforces run out of useable aircraft due 2 heavy losses

      2) When we have total control of e skies but does not have enough aircraft 2 support ground forces due 2 losses

      Edited by spartan_6 08 Sep `08, 2:29PM
  • Short Ninja's Avatar
    4,990 posts since Jan '07
  • Anonymous User's Avatar
    195 posts since Jun '07
    • Sure, A4 can anyhow deploy.... but got skilled pilots to spare anot??

      anyhow throw already rare pilots into flying free-frags... someone get KiraYamato100 in here... =p

      anyway, if RAF is even considering deploying A4s in combat now, a ceasefire would have been a much much better options... not that they would stop defending sg though...wink.png

  • bloodsucker's Avatar
    128 posts since Jun '08
    • Not really free frags. U noe our northern neighbours (wont say who wink.png) the planes arent exactly the best in the world? LOL. Once we decimate their air force, there's nthg left to stop up from blasting them right? The A4 can still be used to do ground attack missions if there really arent enough planes to do it, but which I doubt so. The F-15SGs and F-16Ds are more than capable of that.

  • 16/f/lonely's Avatar
    3,806 posts since Apr '08
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    6,233 posts since Jul '00
    • We may have the air frames, and even if they are serviceable, I think most of the pilots won't know how to fly it.

      Currency in operational aircraft is very important. I hardly think the F-16 pilots would be familiar in the A-4 Cockpit. 

  • bloodsucker's Avatar
    128 posts since Jun '08


    • Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:

      Laughing

      Our A-4s are the only supersonic A-4s in the world.

      Not to mention that we are the 1st to add that ugly WSO cockpit behind the pilot biggrin.png The 2nd bubble isnt meant to be there. Not only the A4s, we zhng our F-5s like hell also angel.png

       

  • bloodsucker's Avatar
    128 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by Shotgun:

      We may have the air frames, and even if they are serviceable, I think most of the pilots won't know how to fly it.

      Currency in operational aircraft is very important. I hardly think the F-16 pilots would be familiar in the A-4 Cockpit. 

      Nah we can always get the 'older' pilots to fly em. The A4 was decommed not long ago only. One of my flight instructors last time was an A4 pilot, and he's very young. Maybe 31 or 32 only. Still got plenty of fight left in him. And u forgot the advanced jet trainer instructors. All are current A4 pilots. Still at the top of their game.

  • Anonymous User's Avatar
    195 posts since Jun '07
    • Or we can pluck them off their stands at paya lebah AFB there...

      Don't think there's any question wif it's airworthness, but battle-wise, how much opposition/force can A4s provide in combat now... Let's, and just let's say, we're boxed in sg, limited fuel/ammo/parts/etc... if we fly A4s, chances are that they would substain more losses, more damages. Which means more engineers/pilots/resources taken away that would otherwise be used to upkeep our main fighters...

      can la~ but is RSAF willing to take that risk? would that strategy smart?, long-term wise?

      Edited by Anonymous User 09 Sep `08, 6:56PM
  • stellazio's Avatar
    45,080 posts since Apr '05
  • 16/f/lonely's Avatar
    3,806 posts since Apr '08
    • Originally posted by bloodsucker:

      Not to mention that we are the 1st to add that ugly WSO cockpit behind the pilot biggrin.png The 2nd bubble isnt meant to be there. Not only the A4s, we zhng our F-5s like hell also angel.png

       


      I think the F-20 Tigershark is cool.....like the A-4SU, its basically a zhng F-5 with 1 X F404, zhng the same way as the A-4SU.Laughing

  • crimsontactics's Avatar
    605 posts since Jun '07
    • I think if SG have the space to keeps any planes, they should. The A4s could be used as trainers or ground attack planes if there should be a war.

      Btw i don't think we can sell them out, at best just scrap their metal to reuse, what a waste.

  • stellazio's Avatar
    45,080 posts since Apr '05
    • Originally posted by crimsontactics:

      I think if SG have the space to keeps any planes, they should. The A4s could be used as trainers or ground attack planes if there should be a war.

      Btw i don't think we can sell them out, at best just scrap their metal to reuse, what a waste.

      we don't..thats why we couldnt even keep our old f16s and rfs..

  • crimsontactics's Avatar
    605 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by stellazio:

      we don't..thats why we couldnt even keep our old f16s and rfs..

      Then while can't do much but to scrape or sell them. Btw such planes shouldn't be too much of a lost.

  • 16/f/lonely's Avatar
    3,806 posts since Apr '08
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